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Update: here's an article I found today:

Big words, crap thinking.(WILLEM'S WORLD)(Brief article) Source: Food Engineering & Ingredients Publication Date: 01-SEP-06

Big words, crap thinking.(WILLEM'S WORLD)(Brief article)

There is an army of conspiracy thinkers out there. If they get their way, there will be a sign above every supermarket warning customers: "Our food products severely damage your health". Armed with books such as 'Fats that heal, fats that kill' by food guru Udo Erasmus, they hurl grave accusations at the food industry. The industry kills, refined oils used in the industry are deadly. These are serious allegations.

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For those who wish to know exactly where those accusations come from, I have a reading tip. Note down the following: case no. cv 98-475 LGB. This is a legal document generally available to the public in the US. Mine is a copy of the original now in the archives of the Central District of California.

The document contains the word for word account of the interrogation of guru Udo Erasmus within the framework of a lengthy fraud case. It makes clear that Erasmus, described as "an internationally renowned author and authority on natural health issues," a "doctor in biochemistry and nutritional science" never graduated.

In the late sixties he left the University of British Columbia without qualifications and afterwards earned his money cutting hedges. In the eighties 'doctor Erasmus' found a job in the supplements industry as a representative's assistant.

Later doctor Erasmus became warehouse man. In that period Erasmus bought his titles, from the entirely bogus and meanwhile defunct Donsbach University, that is.

And then, somewhere in the 1980s, Erasmus' book appeared.

The company where Erasmus worked in the warehouse sold books on health and health products, healthy oils in particular. In the book the 'doctor' told why the oils from his company are so terribly healthy.

And why you, dear readers, are a bunch of murderers.

Now at least you know where such wisdom comes from.

source (you may have to subscribe).

So it appears that the article will stay, but the current content, based on self-published sources, will need to be removed. Also, a criticism/legal section will be needed, which, as I understand it, is a bit of a sticky-wicket due to the page being a biography of a living person. Advice?--E8 (talk) 21:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

https://wikivisually.com/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_deletion/Udo_Erasmus

Also:

Udo Erasmus source

"Fats that Heal, Fats that Kill" does not appear to be a reliable source, as not all nutritions agree with its conclusions (see here - I'm not sure either of these authors is reliable, but clearly there is disagreement). Given that there are two PhD's in the same field with strongly different viewpoints, we must look deeper. The information may very well be correct, but a quality source for the information is necessary. Does Udo cite the scientific studies in his book? These could be located and used as sources.--E8 (talk) 20:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)

I've done more researching on Udo Erasmus and found no external sources verifying his claims. I did find a court filing against him, but that was the only reliable information I found for him (note the PROD tag now present). If you can verifythe reliability of this author, please help by doing so.--E8 (talk) 21:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC

Article indicating Udo has made fraudulent claims about his academic record. Attempting to find the court document mentioned.--E8 (talk) 22:02, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

The case is Case No. CV 98-475 LGB in the US District Court, Central District of California. Relevant Records siteTranslated Dutch page sheds light on the details, saying (at least seemingly, translated by machine as it is) that Erasmus has his credentials from a fake university, Donsbach University, having in the 1960s left University of British Columbia with no degree.--99.102.232.238 (talk) 15:42, 17 May 2011 (UTC)

http://www.wikiwand.com/en/Talk:Vegetable_oil